In order to gain a better sense your workplace experience, it is important that you have a strong understanding of whom your mentor is, as well as how and why they do what they do. To demonstrate this understanding, you are required to conduct and complete a narrative write-up of an informational interview with your mentor. The objective of the interview is to be able to ‘paint a portrait’ in writing of your mentor (both professionally and personally) and provide "real-life" information about the career field you are exposed to during your WLE.
Reading books and magazine articles and exploring the Internet are only one way of finding out about the world of work. Your interview and narrative ‘portrait’ will help you and your peers better understand the world of work and the myriad ways that people arrive at the work they do. These interviews will be used by other students as a direct way to research, gather information and explore career options.
The success of your interview will depend in part on how well you craft questions to find out as much as possible about:
• who your mentor is and what she is about (what’s her story?)
• what exactly his job is and requires or entails (what exactly does he do?)
• how she got this job or how he got involved in this job (what did she do before, etc…?)
• what training/education she has (related and/or unrelated to the work he does)
• what she likes/dislikes (about life, work and/or the world)
• what he does in his free time, what inspires her, etc…
For this assignment you need to:
1. Brainstorm, and then further refine, a list of effective questions to ask your mentor during an interview so that you can create a comprehensive portrait of them. (Of course, you should be prepared to ask follow-up questions to your mentor’s responses, and allow the interview to take on a life of its own.)
2. Establish a time and date to conduct the interview (this may or may not be during your regular WLE visit)
3. Conduct the interview (prepared with framing questions)
4. Transcribe or write-up your notes from the interview
5. Craft a polished narrative portrait of your mentor using his or her responses to your interview questions.
Requirements of the final narrative:
• Professional in appearance and structure
• Engaging and interesting to read (your audience is other students exploring potential career or life choices)
• Posted on-line (blog) for your mentor and other students to review
• 3-4 typed, double-spaced, pages (pre-blog)
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My mentor is a teacher for the astronauts, children from ages 4 to 5, in a preschool called Chibi Chan Preschool. Before teaching my mentor had other visions of her future. She was majoring in fashion merchandising and hospitality in school before even hearing about Chibi Chan Preschool, but it didn’t work out for her.
During the summer her sister-in-law, who was the director of Chibi Chan at that time, suggested for her to volunteer at the preschool over the summer. Her sister-in-law said it was just for a few hours a day and so my mentor was interested. At that time the preschool was much smaller and the setting was completely different. The classrooms were much smaller and less-organized, but now it is bigger and set up better. The teachers and directors were different from the ones now. There’s basically a huge change in the preschool now. When she was volunteering during the summer, there were different activities for the children than during the school year because instead of always staying in the building the children went on field trips every once in a while each week. This made it a really fun and interactive time for her.
My mentor decided to work full-time after a while of being a T.A. The transition was big, it was changing from working 7 hours to working 30 hours a week, and it was one of the biggest challenges for her. But everything worked out eventually and she became used to the longer work hours. She was happy it turned out the way it did.
She would always have lots of energy in the morning and then by lunch time, she would be hungry and have used up most of her energy because the kids were too energetic. The hardest part of the day was lunch time and getting the children to rest during nap time. When she gets home she could just relax. So overall, the experience was good. She really liked the atmosphere because it was really relaxing and everything was easy-going. She only had to play with kids and there wasn’t any pressure or stress between co-workers that most people would experience at work.
Besides teaching at Chibi Chan, my mentor also does sales for Hornblower. She also baby-sits sometimes. She has a pretty busy life with school and work and the only thing she does as a hobby that does not relate to her job is riding on her motorcycle from time to time. Traveling could be counted as one of her hobbies.
She believes that in order to be successful in her job you would have to be knowledgeable about what age group you’re going to be working with. There are many different types of child care that includes private non-profit, family child care, and many others. Chibi-Chan is a private non-profit community-based child care and my mentor is happy about that because everything that is given to them goes right back to the children, the tuition is used for buying supplies for the children.
My mentor says that if she wasn’t working at Chibi Chan she would probably be in some type of management. There are many things my mentor would like to change about Chibi Chan, but if she could change just one thing about Chibi Chan it would be to make the playground bigger so there could be more equipment like swings or monkey bars for the kids.
WLE Mentor Interview
Sheri Sheridan
My life is full of adversity. But with adversity, we become stronger and more independent. We are and must be creative in how we handle it. I’ve gained survivor skills in being an entrepreneur. Believing in self is the key to life. I am a survivor.
Little girls usually want to be doctors, lawyers or fairy princesses when they first start thinking about what they want to become. I wanted to be a shoe designer. When I was five, I had a portfolio full of shoes I’d want to make. I guess my eye for design came naturally. I am an interior designer. I have an interior design home décor store that focuses on high-end design called Swallowtail. I opened Swallowtail in 1996 to fulfill a planned out goal. My friend, Nathan Brown, offered me a proposition to open a furniture design company together. It was unexpected but I accepted the offer and opened Disfigure Design in 2003. In 2004, we won an award for Best New Furniture Designer and that was just a big deal. It launched a bunch of new (design) jobs for bars and restaurants. My name was out there. I was finally successful in reaching my goals.
The path I took in reaching those goals started way before that. I started working when I was 18 on Haight St. in a vintage clothing store, where I got my background on vintage things. I was also the personal assistant for the Theriot family, one of the wealthiest families in San Francisco. They really instilled me with the confidence to go “out there” and do my own thing. So at 23, I quit and began doing set design. There was always furniture leftover after set design jobs so I began selling pieces at the flea market; that became the mere beginnings of what I now know as Swallowtail. Successful as I was in getting the most advantageous jobs at 18, my schooling ends with, not a fancy diploma, but a I-barely-graduated-out-of-high-school”. All my knowledge is from working “for myself” for 17 years. If I were to do it all over again, I would do everything the same. There are things that I could’ve done to make my business more successful. I lacked knowledge about business. I was a typical artist. I had creativity and knew how to do but not promote. I would’ve hired a business manager from the very beginning. I 100% thought of myself. What made me happy? I was bound to be successful at it. If you want and feel the need to attend college, go. But if you want to take the naïve route, go naïve.
I like my job because I’m able to be creative and independent from mainstream, everyday politics. I have to be prepared and ready for anything. For example, the other day, my car tire gave in while I was driving and then, on the next day, a drunk driver hit my car. If I got into a really bad situation, it’d be difficult to continue my business. I think that running my own business gives me independence and independence, unlike peace of mind when working under someone, outweighs by 100%. Something that I dislike about my job is: not knowing what’s going to happen the next day. This industry is very competitive. You have to find your own unique style and voice to set yourself apart. I get inspired when I see amazing new designs; it’s an art form. I started out being hugely influenced by the punk rock music scene. I was the lead singer of a band at 14 and that helped me form a design sense, my punk rock background.
The busiest times of the year are November and December. It’s holiday season and people want to buy. It gets kind of slow when tax season creeps in. Like fashion, food and technology, interior design had trends also. There was this big monotone trend not too long ago. Now, eclectic unusual combinations are a trend. Designers are putting 2 decades together, for example, Mid-modern with Louis XVI.
I go to many social events to “schmooze” and meet people but I really enjoy going to art shows, taking my dogs to the park and cooking. I love my dogs. My mom passed away when I was 14 and my puppy was there for me. I have a real connection with dogs. People don’t know it but they’re really aware of their surroundings and just a sweet, smart, incredible part of life. If I had more time, I’d volunteer or walk unwanted dogs. I want to change how dogs are treated.
In five years, I see myself still at Swallowtail but also managing the stores in Los Angeles, New York and all across the country; a multi-store business. Swallowtail will have its own label of furniture. Our website will be a household name along with the Swallowtail catalog, which will have a huge mailing list. I have the reputation. I just need to ready my portfolio and sell my brand.
How I’m going to get to these goals in five years is not a total mystery but if I do get lost on the way, I’ll find a solution. Events in my life have proved to me that I’m a survivor.
wait...ms.farrell, i just need to post it right? i don't need to send it to you right? and did i do it correctly by making it in the point of view as my mentor?
WLE Mentor: Sister Ana Bui
I’m a principal at Corpus Christi Catholic School. Grades 1st-8th. I had different categories to choose from being financial administrator or being a teacher. It took me awhile to pick what I wanted to be and love doing my job. I didn’t realize until later on as I got older when I was in high school around my junior year I knew what I wanted to be a teacher and a nun at the same time. I had second thoughts about being a teach but I knew what was best for me and knowing that sometimes being a teacher it depends on the purpose of children and to go through challenges with them. Enable to become a teacher I have to be apart of the church and be a sister (nun). It was hard leaving my parents in order of being a sister you have to leave your family. Knowing that my parents that inspired me to be who I am today is hard. Once I’m a sister I only have “the nuns” as a family and not my own. As I attended Corpus Christi I went to college and got my Bachelors Degree, Teaching credential and Master Degree. I’ve been in school for seven years and took me nine years to get the degrees that I wanted. I studied a lot but I didn’t become a teacher at Corpus Christi. I ’ve been teaching for about twenty years.
I was assigned to being a principal because everyone in the convent (house where the nuns stay at) are assigned to different careers to help the community. My days are lonely sometimes when I think about my parents. I miss them so much. Everyday when I am alone and have time for myself I read a lot. Reading is the best way of getting away from things that I don’t want to think about and watching movies at night and enjoying myself.
During school days it’s sometimes easy for me but mostly hard because it depends I schedule school activities to keep children occupied and have a walk through in all the classes and help children out when help is needed. Being a principal is not what I’m happy to be but as long as I am close to the children. Some day I will go back to teaching and have that warmth feeling that I've had before when I was a teacher having a student and watching them graduate and seven years later coming back to my class and saying thank you for being my teacher and helping me and knowing that they are learning a lot in college is the greatest feeling that I can never give up. When the eighth graders are picking out a high school I love helping find scholarships for students and a good school for them to attend for there freshman year. When I'm with the second graders its hard for me to make them understand new material that they learn because their brain in developing each day and its good for them to understand and help them expand their thinking about new math or a new way of writing.
I love being around children they make me feel young I feel like I stay young when I’m with them”. To reach up to young children and learning because you want them to have a good future is hard but brings attention about thinking about the future. It took me awhile to choose what I wanted to be until I watched what teachers brought upon students learning and brings knowledge learning every day. Watching the way students learn from the basic level of learning and developing new skills in reading, writing etc. Is a great feeling because you feel a big impact on students having the knowledge to learn and teach them to be good citizens of society and be excellent of school and church and having hope. My priority is to see children grow successfully and learn more and have hope in the future for them.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 Brett Moran: delta
BLOG #5: MENTOR INTERVIEW
The success of your interview will depend in part on how well you craft questions to find out as much as possible about:
• who your mentor is and what she is about (what’s her story?)Hello my name is Alysia Rueda Caryl, I was born in San Francisco California and I have lived here all my life. When I first started going to schools I thought that going to schools in City College would be a good place to start so that’s where I started. I really had no idea of what I was going to major so I just took normal classes and I always like the idea of traveling but never got around to it. So when one of my classes offered for a trip to Paris I really wanted to go and see what it was like there what the culture is like how the people act and all that type of stuff. I was with a large group of students and we mostly went to famous sites and a lot of museums this is where I got really interested in the arts and museums at the same time. It was a win/win situation for me to go to Paris. we got toured to some very famous museum at it was a blast getting to see them all. After this I had a lot better idea of what I wanted to major. When I got back to San Francisco I moved to southern California and got accepted to UCLA. Then I started to major in humanities and arts because it seems to make me feel good and I enjoyed it a lot. After this I went back to San Francisco and got a job working with a museum. It was just a museum that was for sculptures and paintings. This is where I explained the art to views and customers. After a few years I decided to go back to school for my masters degree. So I had to quit my full time job. When I was looking for an open museum job I found zeum this was on craiges list. This is where I got interested so I called and I had the right specifications to become a Visitor Experience Manager this was a good job and I didn’t have to work full time for it. Once I started my job I got so attached to working with kids and watching them gain from being in or museum it’s such a cool museum for families. That is how I got my job. The things I like most of my job is that I get to teach others how to do things in an arty way not just arithmetic. That is probably the thing I like most about my job. But I also like that everybody that works with me is nice. The only things that I dislike are that I have to go teach right after work other then that it’s pretty much a great job and I defiantly enjoy it. Oh and I almost forgot to say I am also a teacher at city college now I teach after work on Wednesdays what I teach is humanities and pop culture. I also have two children who are both young. Some things that I do in my free time are go and do fun things with my children. Also I enjoy reading in my free time; some things that inspire me are the kids I’m around at Zeum and my own kids at home.
Jessieka Detrinidad-Taylor Kemp
Well I grew up in Brazil. I grew up in a very strict household. We were only allowed to speak Spanish by my father. I went to a catholic school, where any kind of creativity or creative clothing or creative things were looked down on. I very much wanted to be an engineer for NASA, but I knew that I would not be able to afford it, and I think that my love of construction came out of that. Today my nephew is actually an engineer for NASA, so I guess he had the same idea I had, but he actually went for it.
Before I started Amer-Braz I did many many interesting things. I worked on a cruise line. We went to many ports and I saw a lot of the world by working on the cruise ship. I was also working as a cop for the SFPD, and at the same time I was working for Bank of America in the fraud department, and translating things to and from Spanish. It was very interesting work and I actually had a few cases where I got to find the fraud as a fraud detective, and then arrest the person as a cop on my next shift. It was then that I met Eunice who I later started Amer-Braz construction with. Eunice had only been in this country for a few months from Brazil when she bought a building and she happened to have put $10,000 dollars in Bank of America. I met her because 1 day she came into the bank and was acting very hysterical. She only spoke Portuguese which is the main language spoken in Brazil, and she knew very little Spanish and almost no English. The bank asked me if I could translate for her, but at that point I did not know Portuguese. When we finally got a translator on the line, she could only translate from Portuguese to Spanish, so I had to then translate from Spanish to English. Eunice had let some other Brazilian immigrants stay for free in her new building while they sorted out their citizenship. She was new in this country so she did not know that people here take advantage because people in Brazil are not like that. The people had stolen Eunice’s account information and were siphoning money off of her account, and then one day they just disappeared with the whole sum. I was the one working on her case, and she invited me over to her apartment for dinner because of all the help I gave her acquiring the FDIC insurance on her money. That night I had not had time to change out of my police uniform before coming over; I also had my squad car with me. A couple of the Brazilians came back that night to sneak in and get some of their stuff from the apartment. Out of luck we had just stepped out of the apartment at the same time one of them was standing there and the other was climbing through the window of the first floor hallway. Eunice immediately pointed them out to me and I said “stop!” and I kicked the first one to the wall and the second one slipped back through the window. I cuffed the first one and chased the second one across the street. He got away, but the first one revealed where they were living in exchange for not being deported. They were all arrested and Eunice and I became very good friends.
Right before we started Amer-Braz, on my next assignment the bank sent me to Florida to investigate a case. We were staying in a rundown little motel when hurricane Andrew hit. We stayed for more than a week in the community bathroom of the hotel, because many of the buildings in the area, including the hotel were utterly destroyed. We had fresh water which was coming out of a broken pipe in the wall of the bathroom, but we were starving, the rescue party had not gotten to us yet. Some of the men in the group went out to get a refrigerator which was floating around in the flood water, lucky for us it was filled with food that had not yet gone bad! After the hurricane, we could not get to the airport right away because the one close to us was destroyed also, and the other one was too far away and the roads were filled with debris, and the only way to get anywhere was by helicopter. We were walking through the destroyed neighborhoods near the hotel, when a man approached us. He told us that he had heard that no one would be able to fly for at least two weeks, he offered us food and shelter and five dollars an hour if we would help rebuild some of the buildings in the area. This was the event which changed our lives. They brought us to some houses, and they would tell us to do things like rebuild a wall or fix a floor. There were very experienced contractors from all over the country on these job sites who would teach us how to do the things before we were asked to do them. I quit my job and we decided to stay in Florida for 2 years while we learned construction from the best in the industry. That is the only way to learn construction, it is one of the last types of industries where the best way to learn is by apprenticeship. By the time we left you wouldn’t have even known a hurricane had ever gone through there. When we came back we found out that we had nearly doubled each of our life savings from all the wages we got doing various jobs in Florida.
We knew then that we had to start a constructions company and we would make more money than we ever had growing up, and we named it Amer-Braz for America-Brazil. I really love my work. I love to create. My favorite part of it is being able to work with people like inspectors and city officials to get the permits I need to be able to build things. Eunice likes to do all of the paperwork, that is her cup of tea; I really hate paperwork, so we work well together. I don’t like being out of date with all of the equipment and computer we should have. Before I had my intern working for me every Wednesday I used to have to struggle with the high tech, now it is becoming clear and simple, and I never thought we would have a website! I am living my dream career right now, I don’t think it could be any better; I have a flexible schedule and a good amount of money. I could not be happier.
I was born in Teheran, Iran. I lived with my parents and went to Armenian school in there, just like we have one here. A lot of kids were going to USA to a college to get a good education; this was a destiny of a lot of kids in Iran and mine too. Nobody asked you whether you want or don’t want to go, it is like your destiny, you have to go. So after the high-school graduation, I moved to New York, USA. I went to New York alone, at the age of 18, it was in 1970. I graduated NYU and had a doctor degree. Then I moved to my country, Armenia because I am Armenian and I feel like you have to visit your home country. I moved there in 1990. I lived and taught there for a long time and then went back to New York after 7 years.. I am a teacher at heart so before being a principle in this school, I worked at a huge amount of schools, both Armenia and USA. I worked at two schools in New York, three Armenian universities; I supervised in one of the colleges… and many other schools.
My dream after graduating NYU was to open an Armenian high-school that is open for anybody but that still has focus on Armenian culture. But I never had any experience as a principle before. Once I was at some teacher conference where I had to make a presentation, and then I got into a conversation with one man. After couple of years, I get a phone call from him asking if he would like to have a position of the principle in this school. I agreed because I felt like it will be a good opportunity for me to get some experience in the area of controlling the school for future purposes of opening a school. The other reason is my commitment to children, education and to Armenians, and also to have an opportunity to make decisions that are beneficial to others. I am in this school only for three or four weeks and I am still new to this place and don’t know a lot about it. And sometimes people are being inpatient and coming with questions, comments or suggestions, and I have no idea what to answer because I just got to this place. Stuff like that makes me very depressed and makes me want to ask myself “Why did I accepted to be a principal”. Also, when I see that something is not being done for a long time period, when it stays at the same place. The things that keep me here is my commitment, my commitment to the idea of providing a good education for students, and especially for Armenian students.
I can’t say what I like more, being a teacher or a principle. Like I said before, I am a teacher at heart so even as a principle, I go to classes, watch kids learn, give advices to teachers. But still, my dream is to open an Armenian high-school because I like working with adults more than with kids like in elementary/middle schools. I would like to open it in Los Angeles because there is a big Armenian community (Diaspora), and also my mom lives there so it will be good to live near her.
In my free time I like to read, have long walks, spend time with my family. I also like go to political events. I am also a movie fan; I really like international movies, basically, all movies that have message. I don’t like horror, thriller movies because they don’t bring message to viewers. Even though I may seem like a person who likes to live in silent places, it is not true. I love noise, I like when it is loud outside, when there are people that walk, laugh and scream. Maybe, that’s why I love New York the most.
Hello, I'm Terry Hanley. I am currently the Principle for Star of the Sea School out here on Geary. I have been a long time teacher before this job at several schools. I first taught at St. Emeden's for two years. Then I moved on to a better place where I taught for eleven years at St. Veronica's. Then I helped fill a position for a MIA teacher at Riordan for a year. Then finally I came to STAR where I am currently in charge of. An interesting note is that I might not be here today if my Riordan job ended differently.
Originally I was granted the job at Riordan for only a year, yes, but they said that if the teacher I was pulling for did not show up the year after I would get the job full time and be fully employed. As you can see, he did returned and I was forced to look else where. Luckily I found STAR and came in fairly easily. I got a warm welcome and returned that welcome with working hard with this school and everyone involved with it. Sure I am an easy going guy, but I now when to be strict and tough, and that is what has helped me stay afloat along with the school. Many things else lead me up to this point that I am at right now. My eighth grade teacher really helped me and supported me. As well as two principles I ran into along the way here. They were all great instructors and really helped me down the right path. My home life though wasn't so good.
My life at home wasn't as safe as it could have been. I won't go into details, but it wasn't the best place to be for me. I went to SHHC where I really grew up. It was a much safer enviorment than my home, plus my father was really supportive of me and helped me get there. I originally was taking physics courses, but I got tired of those and moved on to take two English courses which of course led me to my teaching credentials. I am defiantly in control of a lot more stuff than I was before, but there are still those things that, either in full swing or from time to time, I can't control. I am currently looking at continuing my teaching for about two more years after being a principle. I would love to be married again and then move out of the bay area for retirement.
There are quite a few things I would like to do besides teaching, but if I had to choose one... it would be... being a senator. Being a senator I would be able to bring brains to the table, be useful in many ways and I would be very comited. But lets get back to the business of being a principle. To all you young ones out there, I would have to say that if you plan on being a principle or teacher some day there are several good features you'll need. You need to be a good leader and/or coordinator. Look at others around you and act off that. You must trust others judgments and above all else, YOU MUST LOVE KIDS AND YOU MUST LOVE YOU'RE WORK! Oh... and one more thing... you must be able to sprint.(Julian Note: You must be fast as ninja)
As of to schooling, in order to get to where I am, I suggest taking courses in the arts. You will need at least a bachelors and masters in this field. Along side that you will need a teaching credential and ten years of teaching experience. I also got a Administrative credential, so if you want to be the head of something, you will need that to back you up. It looks like a lot and might suck with the whole process, but it is well worth it in the end. I know I have made all this look like a fun time,(or at least I think I have) but it isn't all that good. It takes away from you're personal life quite a bit if you're not careful. An example is that most dates I go on are school events. Many hours of you're own life must go into this job. I also lose a lot of my social life, and I can tell you that is no fun at all.
You must be wondering if I would want to change anything by now. I don't blame you for asking that seen as how I can look back on the work I do and agree with you. Truth is, if I had to make one change, it would be to never make a change in my life again. I love my job and the kids are worth it. The people you meet are vast in cultures, thoughts, feelings and many more things. It's almost like a culture shock. So if you think you have what it takes to be where I am several years from now and/or were interested in any of the things I mentioned, go for it. Do you're best in school, get you're BA and MA and have some fun. FOR GOD SAKE, HAVE SOME FUN BEFORE WORKING BECAUSE YOU WILL REGRET IT OTHERWISE!!!
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to my girl friends house to have dinner and watch a movie. If I am late... well lets just say it won't be pretty with the movie choices. Oh and quick word of advice to you single and dating men, don't let her pick out the movie. High chances are it's a chick flick. Well, good luck.
Sincerely- Terry Hanley
P.S. DON'T CALL ME MR.HANLEY! for reasons I will not explain....
Christi Dolezal
Ms.Farrell- Advisory
WLE Mentor Interview
w/ Willow Rosenthal
Christi Dolezal: When did you first start City Slicker Farms?
Willow Rosenthaal: I started it in 2001. I purchased the land where the center street farm
at an auction.
Christi: Did you go specifically for land? and specifically for this farm?
Willow: Yes, we werent thinking big but we went specifically for a peice of land, and a friend had loaned me the money for it, and i payed it off as i worked.
Christi: How is the Farm doing now compared to when it first started?
Willow: When we first started at center street, there was a bit of dillemma over having enough
food to sell, but over time weve learned to be more efficient with space. Our planting calendar has evolved, because weve gotten to see what makes sense.
Christi:When did you first become interested in agriculture and why organic?
WIllow: Well, my dad was a hippie and hippies had gardens. I first became interested in
agriculture when i was 5 with my dad. We gardened alot when i was a kd, and for a while
i think i was more interested in it. it was weird he was really into it when i was a kid
and then not so much, so in highschool i encouraged him to garden more.
I got a job with organic farmers in highschool, i mostly worked with flowers, and i didnt like that
too much. I had more of an interest in the social justice realm and had more love for growing food.
I went to school for international studies so theres always been this political background in my
work.
Christi: How did the Oakland community react to the farm?
Wllow: The people always reacted positively, at least to our faces.We really
didnt have too many problems. I think people have pre-concieved ideas about people who live in poverty. People think that the poor dont
have an appreciation for the finer things in life, just because they dont have them physically, this is false in my opinion.
They know what organic means, and they were happy to have this available to them.
Christi: What changes have you seen in West Oakland?
Willow: There is more fresh produce now, the people are eating better and hopefully a overall healthier community. The community is more empowered
through the backyard garden programs and the farms they can come to. We provide the "No, You Can do it!," attitude.
Christi: What would you suggest to someone interested in the same field?
Willow: I definetly think we have enough smaller programs already, so i would just say go out and whatever community your in, find out what
people are doing already doing. We should focus on what we already have to make one bigger project, to bring everyone together.
I dont think we need any new programs. And its tricky because there isnt alot of government support and so theyre arent alot of stable jobs
in this industry, we definetly need alot of lobying to include urban farming.
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